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french press grind - 2007/02/08 13:01I am mainly an espresso and espresso based drink drinker, but I occasionally like to dabble in french press. I use my mazzer mini or my Macap M5 to gind and the process goes like this: remove espresso bean hopper remove as many espresso beans as I can adjust grind to fairly coarse grind out remaining espresso beans dose out espresso grinds weigh/grind beans dose into french press
It is a fairly involved process, and if I drank french press more I would get a doserless rocky to be my french press grinder, but that is the way it is. My problem is, I have a very difficult time finding the right grind setting for french press on my espresso grinders. I go for sugar grain sized bits, but I honestly dont really know how to tell if the grind is set right. I figure if I get too much sludge I am grinding too fine, but other then that, I dont know.
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caffiend
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Re:french press grind - 2007/02/08 15:19I have never heard of precise guidelines for french press. I just adjust my Rocky until there is only a minimal amount of "sludge" in the bottom of the cup when I'm done and I can no longer notice the sublte gritty texture of suspended particles when I drink.
I figure its all about the trade off between grinding fine enough for maximum character extraction while at the same time ending up with a solution that is, at least perceptibly, more or less monophasic.
Interesting question though.
I was wondering if you could comment on the espresso (and other) grind quality differences between the MACAP M5 and the Mazzer. Is the grind for espresso about equivalent between the two?
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Re:french press grind - 2007/02/08 20:11I just sold my mazzer. After using the two side by side, I am completely convinced that the macap is better. 1. It has a way better dosing system. On the mazzer you really have to make sure that the dosing lever returns fully or else it wont dose. The M5 has a spring that has a really satisfying feel, and ensures that every pull doses coffee. 2. The M5 spins at 1400rpm, whereas the mazzer spins at 1600rpm. That means the M5 produces a more consistent grind at lower temperatures. 3. The M5 grinds a little bit faster. 4. Although they are both very similar, Overall, I prefer the look and feel of the M5.
However, the M5 has stepped adjustments. The steps are close enough together then I havent yet wanted an adjustment inbetween two.
I should note that I have a slightly biased view since I sell the M5, but I honestly do like it better then the mazzer.www.currentcoffee.ca
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Re:french press grind - 2007/02/09 14:35Some prefer a medium to moderately coarse grind for press, some almost an espresso-fine brind, others still in between (incl. me).
One thing to keep in mind is that your brew duration must vary depending on the coarseness of the coffee. Steeping espresso grinds for five minutes is apt to produce bitter coffee (it isn't a given, but you get the idea). Also, your water temperature may vary to suit the coffee or roast level. A light roast coffee might "brew best" at a higher temperature than a full city, darker roast coffee. Not ever boiling, but a degree or a few hotter than you might otherwise use, or less of a count off after pulling your nearly boiling water from the heat source.
The best advice I can give is to use some general guidelines, including these, and to experiment to find what you love best.
Be sure to use enough coffee in your press. This may vary by bean or taste, but you don't want your coffee to be overextracted.
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