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Spend 1600$ on a E61 machine or 700$ on sylvia? - 2008/09/08 19:09Hi! , right now i own a Rocky grinder(colin advice) paired with a seaco aroma... yeah! i know... pressurize pf! I really like my rocky, ill probably never sell it... But for now, the aroma are not enought for me, i wish better. My question will be easy. Does i REALLY need to spend 1600$ on a e61 machine(expobar/isomac/vibiemme..) to get a good espresso.Money are not really a problem when you love coffee, but i just want to be sure that ill not spend money for nothing. I was affraid when i read some comments on vibiemme/ecm machines... they break too! This is not supposed to be solid machines? built like tank? Whats i was affraid with the sylvia is, I dont want to buy a sylvia and sell it 2 year later(like my saeco). I want a GOOD machine...Thank for your help! Colin, whats is your personnal machine right now?
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Re:Spend 1600$ on a E61 machine or 700$ on sylvia? - 2008/09/08 21:30If you have to ask, then you are not ready for that kind of $ outlay - and I totally agree with you.
Espresso coffee is as much journey as it is destination - so take your time, enjoy the ride.
I would get the Silvia and learn to live with it/love it over a period of a couple of years... or more.
They totally retain their value.
I have so many machines crossing my kitchen counter that there is no regular unit. My kitchen counter and cupboards are currently cluttered with all manner of brewers; french presses, bodums, aeropresses, bialetti stove-tops, filter holders, etc - even a 50 year old Percolator! Yes! I admit it and I am proud!
An E61 will be great for you one day... but perhaps not now.Colin is the Senior editor and creator of the CoffeeCrew.Com Website
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Re:Spend 1600$ on a E61 machine or 700$ on sylvia? - 2008/09/09 17:37Thank you colin , i really appreciate your expertise. This is what i want. I ask this question, cause i buy something like my rocky tank. Build for life.
Ill surely go for a sylvia...but if you have a advice on a overkill machine, witch machine are you suggest me?
You dont have espresso machine on your counter?
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Re:Spend 1600$ on a E61 machine or 700$ on sylvia? - 2008/09/09 19:22Have you tried pulling shots with a non-pressurized PF? If not, try it. You don't have to buy a new PF. You can dismantle the pressurizing component. The PF will be really light after the surgery but it's fully capable of brewing good shots.Tmplo is a Vancouver area resident and coffee expert
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Re:Spend 1600$ on a E61 machine or 700$ on sylvia? - 2008/09/10 04:02Yeah i try it so many times... but i hate the fact that the pf become loose when you insert it in the pf group. Ill probably change my aroma in 6 months or less... so ill continue to brew espresso with pressure :-| the steam wand become to leak this week, maybe ill change it sooner
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Hi,
I've had my Mokita for 5 years now, and I find the coffee is getting kind of bitter - sour, and there is almost no more crema. At first, I thought it was the coffee itself, but now I doubt it....
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